BeKindr to YOU with Dr. Eva Ritvo
Being kind to yourself and asking for help during challenging times is easier said than done! In a world obsessed with perfection, being brave enough to open up about our personal struggles creates authentic connections and empowers the building of a support network. Join Kindness Influencer and Podcast Host, Marly Q and award-winning pyschiatrist and author of BeKindr, Dr. Eva Ritvo, for a brief and illuminating conversation about the transformative power of kindness, vulnerability and post-traumatic growth. We’ll dive deeper on these topics at MANkind Summit, May 17-19th, 2023, join us for this historic 3-day virtual event!
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“Kindness is vital to our relationships and health. It uplifts us and makes us more optimistic about humanity.” ~ Dr. Eva Ritvo
Listen to this Episode and Discover…
- The significance of vulnerability, kindness and building a support network
- How trauma affects us, you’ll learn about post-traumatic stress disorder and the lesser known truth about post-traumatic growth
- How embracing your needs can lead to a world of healing and positive transformation.
- The right people always show up! Trusted professionals, family, friends, and kind strangers can guide us through the darkest moments and celebrate our growth.
About Marly Q:
Kindness Influencer, Leadership Trainer, and Community-Builder on a mission to create a kinder world for over two decades. Through her podcast, she invites listeners to make “Time to Be Kind” each week to receive a spark of kindness, connection and community.
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About Our Guest:
Eva Ritvo, M.D. is an international speaker, award-winning author and highly sought after psychiatrist with almost 30 years of experience practicing in Miami Beach, FL. Eva is author of multiple books including BeKindr: The Transformative Power of Kindness and the founder of BeKindr Global Movement, a non profit dedicated to fostering more kindness in the world by educating and empowering people to THINK more about kindness. She’s also the co-founder of the Bold Beauty Project, a non-profit that pairs women with disabilities with award-winning photographers & creates inspirational art shows across the US.
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Marly Q 00:00:00
Listen, we all go through trauma. Whether big “T” or little “t”. Chances are, if you’ve been alive long enough, you’ve been through a traumatic experience. And in today’s episode, my special guest and I invite you to think differently about trauma and practice being kinder to yourself while going through it.
Welcome, friends. Thank you so much for making Time to Be Kind with Marly Q and my special guest, PARKer. Today, she is a celebrity PARKer. She’s been here three times now. Dr. Eva Ritvo is one of my favorite PARKers. She’s an international speaker, an author, and a highly sought after psychiatrist with more than 25 years of experience practicing in Miami Beach, Florida. She’s also the co founder of the Bold Beauty Project, which is a nonprofit that pairs women with disabilities with award winning photographers and creates inspirational art shows all across America. And not only that, Eva is also the founder of the Be Kinder global movement, which I am sporting the shirt. So if you’re looking on YouTube, you just saw me doing that. If you’re just listening, know that I’m wearing a beautiful Be Kinder shirt that is a nonprofit and a movement dedicated to fostering more kindness in the world by educating and empowering people to think more about kindness. Welcome back to the show, Eva.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:01:28
Thank you, Marly. It’s always lovely to see you. Of course, I prefer in real life, but I guess we’re living in a virtual world now, aren’t we?
Marly Q 00:01:34
We are, but we can do a virtual hug.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:01:36
Virtual hug. Hug yourself.
Marly Q 00:01:39
We can get that oxytocin rush. Yes, do. Yes, it is. So let’s jump right into our conversation for PARKers that may be listening or joining us for the first time. Could you let us know what’s a PARKer?
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:01:53
Sure. Well, a PARKer is a person who Performs an Act of Random Kindness. And hopefully everybody who’s listening is a PARKer. And hopefully more people didn’t know the term, but they’ll start to see themselves in that way, because the way we define kindness, it can be something incredibly simple, like smiling at somebody holding a door open. When I walked home this afternoon from my luncheon, a lady was standing at the elevator and she said, you look beautiful. I almost cried. It was so sweet, right? I said, oh, that’s so nice. So just the tiniest thing can make a person feel so happy and change their mood. So that’s what we encourage with parking, is not to just think of these big acts of kindness. We’ve had another disastrous shooting. I feel like every time we’re together, Marly, it’s another horrific shooting. So my psychologist best friend’s calling me up, saying, what are you going to do? I’m like, I don’t know what to do. If I knew what to do, I would do it. But small things we do know what to do. Stop. Acknowledge people. Tell them like you do today. You look beautiful, smile. All those things make somebody a PARKer absolutely.
Marly Q 00:02:55
You hit the nail on the head. That’s exactly it. And the purpose of Time to Be Kind with Marly Q and really all the work that I do as a speaker, as a leadership trainer, and a community builder, is all to really inspire and influence and unite more. PARKers right. People always say, oh, when I tell them about my mission or that I’m a kindness influencer, it’s like, oh, that’s so nice. We should have more of you in the world. Okay, so let’s right. I believe that I’m a kindness influencer. You are, and we are. And that’s really how we can create a shift in this world that I believe we desperately need. And for those of you listening, friends, I’m going to be linking in our Show Notes episode one and episode three of season one of Time to Be Kind with Marly Q, because Eva was really the spark. It was our first episode of this podcast was with you, and it was about overcoming self doubt. Do you remember that? Sure.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:03:43
But what I remember more is our luncheon when we sat together when you were not in this space and you were taking a little break and diving deep into motherhood. And I am so proud to see you back out here and balancing all aspects. It’s a hard transition to go from a single, married professional, but without children to now two active boys. And it’s great that you’re back out here doing this and trying to influence people. I think your mission has become more important over the years. It’s very sad to say that, but it seems that with the pandemic and the stress that we’re under, it’s harder for people to be kind. They’re more isolated, they’re more suspicious of other people, and therefore your mission, in my opinion, is far more important than it’s ever been.
Marly Q 00:04:27
I agree. Our mission. Our mission, because it’s yours, too. It’s yours, too. I mean, we’re both here, by the way, if you’re not watching on YouTube, both Eve and I wear twinsies today. We’re both wearing our be kinder shirt. How cute is that?
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:04:39
What’s a reminder. It’s a reminder. And the book was written, I think, with a beautiful cover. Yay. Artist Anthony Liggens designed the artwork that’s behind it. But the idea was to just to sort of keep it around and have this book around and remind yourself to be kinder. Because kindness is something that helps the recipient, but it also helps the person giving the kindness. When you say to somebody, Gee, you look beautiful, and they light up, you light up. And so the smallest act helps not just them, but also you. So trying to remind yourself that these are hard times, they’re challenging times, so we should be kinder to other people, and we also need to be kinder to ourself.
Marly Q 00:05:18
That’s usually the answer to most challenges, I think, that I’ve had in my life that I can point to. It’s like a little bit more kindness towards myself would make that situation better. And you are a constant reminder of how simple it can be to support ourselves in our own self care right. Where self care doesn’t have to become this, like, to do, but it’s really more of who do I get to be? Right. Someone that gets to be kind and caring towards yourself and your experience. And when we sat down on lunch that day, I felt like I had gone through, like, a traumatic experience becoming a mother.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:05:53
Marly Q 00:05:53
And my experience of pregnancy and birth was a little bit traumatic. And I think that we all go through different kinds of trauma, right. Whether big tea or little tea. And one of the most impactful things to me that you’ve said was that I’m here talking about kindness, but I wasn’t expressing any kindness to myself and my own journey at that time. Right. And being a little bit more, like, patient with myself and going through this transition, becoming a mom and still wanting to follow my passion and my ambition and my movement in a different way.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:06:26
Marly Q 00:06:26
You were the one that really were the spark to get me to think differently about my trauma. And that’s really what I want to talk about today, because you were our keynote speaker at the inaugural MANkind Summit last year in 2022. And for those of you that don’t know, the MANkind Summit is a signature event that I created. It’s a three day virtual event to elevate mental awareness now and put an end to the stigma surrounding mental health, making it okay to discuss what we’re going through. And if we’re in a rut and our mental health isn’t at 100, that it’s okay to talk to someone about it, whether it’s a therapist, a psychiatrist, or a friend being able to talk about it. And we created this event, which was a beautiful container where people came and were vulnerable and open, and you led an awesome session for us. That, to me, was brand new information, and I think for so many others, I wanted to bring you back on the show and hopefully give people a different perspective about trauma and growth.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:07:21
Marly Q 00:07:21
I actually want to share, like, the good news that you shared at this event was that one half to two thirds of people who experience trauma will actually grow as a result of that. Could you tell us a little bit more about this post traumatic growth theory? Give us some good news about our trauma? Sure.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:07:40
But first, let me explain the post traumatic stress disorder, because most people have heard of that, and our brains are always wired to look for danger because that keeps us alive. So anytime there’s danger, we’re going to prioritize that information. If we hear something nice, we might remember it, we might not, but our life doesn’t depend on it, so we’re less likely to remember it. So most of you have heard of post traumatic stress disorder, PTSD, and that certainly can occur when you’re exposed to any kind of overwhelming stress, particularly if you feel like your life is at risk. But scientists have gone on to discover that the majority of people, practically two thirds, who experience a trauma will not develop PTSD. And in fact, they develop post traumatic growth syndrome. And for listeners out there, think back to trauma that you’ve occurred, and do you feel now that you’ve had some distance perspective? Do you feel that you have recovered and perhaps even matured and even grown through that experience? Because of our listeners, two thirds of them probably can identify with that, and maybe all of us can identify that with that with some degree of trauma, right? Depends how severe the trauma is, how close you are to it, how it’s going to impact you. But for many people, especially as you’ve used the term several times, small T trauma. And those are the small things that disrupt us. And they can be attachment issues. Somebody who doesn’t like you for a minute or gets upset with you, those can create small T traumas because humans are designed to be in very close contacts and feel very attached. And so even small things can disrupt us and feel traumatic. And if it happens again and again and again, then it can turn into a big tree trauma or big cheat trauma is what we think of when we turn on the news and we see all these weather events. Of course, shooting is the biggest tea trauma, car accidents, but people can do well even after the big T trauma. And as you mentioned earlier, one of the key fundamentals for getting through trauma is self care. When somebody has a traumatic experience, even if it’s something simple like entering motherhood, that we all do, you don’t sleep. And not sleeping is one of the hallmarks of moving towards a post traumatic stress disorder. And when you have a trauma, it’s really important to recover your ability to sleep.
Marly Q 00:10:02
It’s been so important. I didn’t sleep for seven months with my second baby. Seven months. I didn’t get a good night’s sleep. I was not well. Let’s put that shortly. I was not well and still kind of demanding of myself that I show up and I be like, super mom to the two kids and super wife and still show up in my business and putting all this pressure on myself where what I really needed was kindness and space.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:10:29
Be like, hey, can time everything? Most of us are blessed to be here for a long time, and life goes in stages. And when you bring children into the planet, it’s really a nice time to lean into that experience because it’s such a unique experience. Most women, men do it in a short, compressed time, and then they never do that again the rest of their life. So I always think it’s a very important phase. And babies are so dependent, and you can cause little T trauma with a baby, completely inadvertently, you’re just looking at your cell phone for 1 minute. And all kinds of things can happen to children if we don’t keep our eye on them. So it’s a time to really focus on being the best mom you can. And to be the best mom, you have to sleep. Because if you don’t sleep, I always say sleep is the base of the wellness pyramid. The base. Without good sleep, you really can’t do anything. And so fixing that is always the most important thing. And anybody who’s experienced trauma knows that you can’t sleep right after traumatic event, it’s very difficult to sleep. And so that’s why sometimes early intervention, even with medication, sleeping pills to restore that sleep, wake cycle can be very important. And if that prolonged period of insomnia goes on, then that’s a warning that depression or anxiety disorder or PTSD may emerge. So we always take sleep very seriously. If somebody’s had an episode, they’ve recovered. If their sleep gets disordered again, we try to rush in and fix that so that they don’t topple back into those negative pathways.
Marly Q 00:12:04
I’m actually really grateful that I went through that experience, because I never valued or prioritized rest at all in my life until I became a mom and just realized that if I don’t put that at the base of my self care, and I make sure that I get to bed, like, on time, not pass out on the couch and walk to bed at 03:00. A.m no no Netflix binging. And then walk up all tired. No. Get to bed and have a healthy sleep. Routine now, to me, is like, fundamental. And that really was a shift I needed to make for sure. At the MANkind Summit during your session, you actually led people through I think it was like a 21 questionnaire with questions that help people to think about their trauma. We specifically focused on how you’ve grown as a result of COVID-19 pandemic trauma, but it could be absolutely any trauma.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:12:55
Marly Q 00:12:56
And you identified specifically, I think, three areas where we show that we grow as a result of trauma. Can you speak to those?
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:13:03
Sure. The areas that we tend to think about growing from trauma are perspective. Right. That trauma gives us a different perspective to see life. And so oftentimes people come out of trauma with a very different value system. It’s a maturing experience. It can oftentimes stop you in your tracks and gives you time to evaluate what’s really important. So that’s a frequent area of growth is that people come out feeling more mature with their value system intact. To me, this really resonates with the COVID-19 because everybody had to stop every activity. And so so many of us haven’t picked up all of those activities, but we’re back to the ones that we value the most. So it’s a good example of having to figure out what do you value? So personally, I don’t value going to large gatherings to expose myself to that the way that I used to used to take that for granted. Now I don’t take that for granted. So I have to make sure that what I’m going to really speaks to me and makes me want to take that risk. Another change was most of us didn’t go to gyms for a while and then you have to decide exactly, you have to decide where is your value system around that? And a lot of relationships changed. People couldn’t get together as easily, so you had to make a real effort to get together. Many people prioritize their family when they hadn’t necessarily prioritized their family. They might have prioritized friends, business, social activities before. So I think it’s really important for every listener, you know, every listener’s had a trauma because we all went through the pandemic together. So every listener can take a few minutes afterwards and think about how did their value system change from before the pandemic till now. And that’s an area where you often see growth. Another area is like we’ve talked about, self care. So when you have a trauma, you’re usually knocked off your feet, either psychologically or physically and you have to rebuild. And so many people, we use this as a time to improve self care and we also call that self love, right? And so figuring out if you’ve been through something traumatic, how can you heal? For you with a motherhood, you clearly had to sleep. For some other people it’s not quite as obvious. For many people, they don’t choose good nutrition. And so a trauma will be an opportunity for them to connect to their body in a different way and be able to say, wait, actually food is an opportunity to nourish my body and how can I make choices that sustain a healthy body? And so that can be a very positive change. And another area that people oftentimes change after trauma is recreational drug use and trying to be their optimal self and take a break from society. It can be a good time to stop drinking, a good time to stop using marijuana or if you were using anything more serious. So you’ll see, a lot of people will emerge from trauma as part of their new value system. Valuing their health, valuing their nutrition, what they put in their body, valuing their body more, that there’s a real opportunity for growth there. Relationships also change with trauma. What most people find is that when there is a large trauma, some of your support system will back away and some of it will step up. And it’s not always the ones that you expect. So again, when you entered into motherhood, certain people probably helped you more than you expected and others that you thought might be helpful. Maybe they just didn’t know what to do. They didn’t know what to say. They backed away a little bit. So finding out who your support network is, finding out who you can really rely and trust, is another opportunity for growth, for trauma. And again, every listener altered their support system, I’m pretty sure, during this pandemic. And so you can think back to where did you invest your time and efforts in terms of relationships before the pandemic? What sustained you in whatever was your hardest part of the pandemic? For most people that was the beginning part, for some it was later if they got sick or they lost loved ones through this pandemic. But think about who nurtured and supported you and make sure that you appropriately value those relationships.
Marly Q 00:17:10
Absolutely. And including yourself in that.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:17:13
Marly Q 00:17:13
So including yourself as your number one support system, because not everybody has the privilege, for example, that I have of my family, right. Both of my parents are still alive. My in laws are still alive. My kids have both sets of grandparents. I didn’t grow up with grandparents. Right. So and I know so many other people maybe don’t grow up with their parents or grandparents, not close or siblings.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:17:36
Marly Q 00:17:36
And you have to rely on other people in your support system. But ultimately I am responsible to support myself and my well being. Right. And I take responsibility for that from the sense of I am able to respond to my needs through this trauma.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:17:53
Marly Q 00:17:53
Can you speak a little bit to how we can be kinder to ourselves while we’re in the trauma, while we’re going through it?
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:18:01
Well, it can be very hard when you’re in trauma because your brain might be in shock. Oftentimes with trauma we’re in shock for a while and so it is hard to rely on yourself. And again, it depends how large the trauma is. So every time we see one of these huge disasters, you always see community rushing in. And that’s really necessary in the early stages of trauma because you can’t really think very well. And then after that initial shock, if you don’t start to sleep, then it’s also hard to think very well. So community support is very important in the initial phases of trauma. After that initial phase, then as adults it is our responsibility to care for ourselves. As children, it is not. And that’s the biggest difference between childhood and adulthood. And the transition from childhood to adulthood is gradual, but by a certain age, hopefully we would transition and then correct, we’re responsible for ourself. And it’s very important to take the time to care for yourself. As kindness experts, we’re all in favor of kindness, but kindness can go too far. The simple book that I use a simple example I use in this book is my nephew, who’s such a kind, dear soul, that he was a star baseball player in high school and he wanted to go donate blood. So he donated his blood. And then the woman said to him, wow, you’re such a strong guy, would you be willing to stay and donate again? So my brother, my nephew called my sister who’s a doctor, she didn’t pick up. So he said, sure, he didn’t know, he’s a kind guy. So he donated again immediately. And then what happened is he went to the baseball field and of course was unwell and couldn’t play. So he ended up letting his team down. And it’s just a simple example how that was too much kindness, or maybe not. Maybe that second pint of blood saved somebody’s life and it was the appropriate decision. But we always do have to take into equation ourself. And then if we’re not kind to ourself, who are we going to let down the line? So his immediate sure, I’ll be kind had a ripple effect that wasn’t necessary, the effect that he wanted. And we always have to think about that because as adults again, we have to be responsible for ourself. We don’t have to be responsible for other people unless there are children we may elect to because it makes us feel good and it makes them feel good. But we have to carefully weigh the costs and benefits and we have to take care of ourself because no one else can step in and do that. You may have a lovely husband at home who, if you’re sick, can bring you soup, but at the end of the day, it’s you who has to know. You feel unwell and you need to call your doctor or it’s you who says, well, I know this isn’t that serious, but I know that if I rest, I’ll be fine. So it’s really important to know yourself, know how you can feel optimal and then work to achieve that. And for everybody it’s different. For me, the mental health of getting out every day and walking is vital. Integrating a daily, if possible, yoga practice is vital and getting sleep. And then if I can accomplish all those, then I’m perfectly happy to come to work and help people all day and, as you mentioned, have my other adventures, which are so wonderful. But if I don’t sleep well, then I’m not going to be in very good shape to help anybody else.
Marly Q 00:21:15
It could be balance. That balance. And I think that awareness, right, is what you’re speaking to is having the awareness of what your needs are to support yourself on a daily basis and especially while you’re going through trauma, right? If you’re not willing to just be aware of what’s going on with you and actually rely on right, let’s speak to the power of actually asking for help while you’re experiencing a trauma. Right. Because if you’re going to rely on your community and other people, you got to let them know what’s going on. Right?
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:21:48
Well, that’s that word vulnerability. Right. And we’re raised in this stiff upper lip society where everything’s fine. I think that’s changed a lot with the instagram. But you have to go to that place of being vulnerable and depending on your childhood, that can be scary. If you had wonderful mother and father and it was easy to ask for help, well, that’s great, but not everybody has that. And so for some people, it can be very scary because their experiences haven’t been positive in the past. But we all are going to need help at some point, so we’re going to have to take that risk. But you want to take it in a calculated way. So, for example, Marly, I know you very well, I trust you, I love you. And I know that I could call you at any time and say, Marly, I’ve got an issue, help me through it. So it’s about building that support network over time, so that when you do get in that crisis, you don’t have to build that support network anew that you have people you can rely on. But at the same time, I know from going through a divorce, unexpected people helped me and people that I didn’t know very well helped me. So you want to stay open to that. In fact, that’s what I dedicated this book to with a very dear friend. Well, he became a friend, but he had interviewed me the way you’re interviewing me now, right when I was getting divorced. And I didn’t know him. And at the end of the interview, he said, do you want to stay online and talk a little? And he started asking me questions. And then I went and I told him everything and he said, well, you seem like a very lovely woman. If you ever want to talk again, I’m here for you. And then for the next year and a half, two years, he was talking to me all the time and coaching me out of this situation I was in with simple statements, positive statements. It was an amazing friendship that developed from a complete stranger at my most vulnerable time. So, one, build support networks. But two, stay open because you never know who’s going to show up. And you and I believe that we live in an ultimately good universe and the right people will show up and the right people will help us. But we have to allow ourselves to be vulnerable, to show we have a need. And then receive. Receive is important as giving.
Marly Q 00:23:59
Yes, I hope I’m giving you a standing ovation. I’m not clapping because I’ll make the sound go crazy and my team will hate me. But yes, this is the message, friends. And the good news is that human beings are designed to be resilient and we’re designed with this growth potential. So I wanted this episode to give people a little spark of hope and really maybe a new perspective or a new way of thinking about trauma. Big T, little t, whatever it is that you might be going through currently or in the past that is still weighing on you, being able to see that with a different perspective and actually taking the pause to ask yourself some of these questions. I know that everybody that participated at the MANkind Summit really received a lot from that session. I’m so grateful. And I’m excited to invite people to this year’s MANkind Summit because it’s coming up May 17 through the 19th. The purpose, again, of this event is to elevate mental Awareness now. They didn’t catch that. That’s an acronym, by the way.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:24:59
Marly Q 00:25:00
Man in the MANkind Summit stands for Mental Awareness Now, because I believe that sometimes all we need is this little spark to elevate our mental awareness now so that we can actually take stock of how we’re feeling, how we’re doing what we need in order to support ourselves through trauma or through everyday life. Right. That isn’t easy for any of us.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:25:20
Right? And now, just to remind everybody, that’s all we have. We always only have now. And we get really caught up with the past, and we get caught up about the worries about the future. And it’s so important to focus on the now. How am I feeling right now? And how can I feel better right now? Because that’s actually where we live. And so I applaud you for doing this again. It was a really hard time to start in the pandemic. Things have gotten easier, and I hope people will come and share again. And I don’t think we could do a piece on post traumatic growth without mentioning our very dear friend Carrie grueson. Marly and I share a wonderful friendship with Carrie grueson, who I think is the best example of post traumatic growth. She has overcome so much. I have an article that I wrote about her in Psychology Today that I love, so maybe you can link that too. I just wanted to mention thank you to Carrie for teaching me so much and Marly for teaching me so much and being a constant reminder to focus on kindness both to oneself and to the dear community that we have created. And hopefully that can ripple out to a broader and broader community as people join all your initiatives.
Marly Q 00:26:28
Oh, my goodness. Thank you. I have no words. I’m just smiling and in just gratitude. Thank you so much for making time to be kind again. I know you’re such a busy woman, always helping other people. Your calendar is always booked with your clients and your people, and you still always answer the call to be kind. I’m so grateful for you. Thank you.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:26:50
Well, I always want to answer your call, and I will say. That my daughter this year has gotten me for 2023 to schedule in my yoga, so that I’m actually taking care of myself as I try to take care of other people. So thank you to my daughter for helping me make that change and hope listeners out there also will know to prioritize themselves whether it comes to sleep, nutrition, exercise, avoiding toxins, being around people that you love, listening to stimulating podcasts, choosing wisely so that you can have your optimal life.
Marly Q 00:27:23
Yes, I love it. Thank you for being part of my Kind crew. I hope that you will answer the call next time when I invite you again, because I know there’s so much more that we can talk about.
Dr. Eva Ritvo 00:27:32
Always look forward to it, Marly. Thank you so much. And thank you, listeners wishing you a life filled with kindness.
Marly Q 00:27:38
I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I’m still smiling, and I just can’t wait to have Dr. Eva Rivel back on our show. If you are interested in learning more and connecting with her directly, all you need to do is visit Marlyq.com, this episode number and make sure, while you’re there, to click the link to register for our second annual MANkind Summit. You and your team at work or your family, you don’t want to miss this. It is a one of a kind experience, a three day virtual event where we’re going to elevate our mental awareness now and really take home practical tips, practical practices that we can actually implement into our life, to elevate our wellness on a daily basis. Thank you for making this time with me today. See you next time.
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